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[荷比盧]不好意思,因為4月會到荷蘭短暫停留幾天,在規劃行程時對於庫肯霍夫花園Combi-tickets有些問題,還望各位前輩能不吝指教。當天前...so travel to Haarlem and then transfer to Bus Line 50 to Keukenhof.
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舊 請問庫肯霍夫花園Combi-tickets使用 - 2017-03-02, 03:24

不好意思,因為4月會到荷蘭短暫停留幾天,在規劃行程時對於庫肯霍夫花園Combi-tickets有些問題,還望各位前輩能不吝指教。

當天前往花園行程如下,

史基浦機場搭858巴士到庫肯霍夫花園,結束後搭854巴士到萊登,最後搭NS Intercity回機場

請問這樣的行程是否可以買第2類的套票呢?
這種是算日票,可無限制搭乘指定的巴士及鐵路嗎?
謝謝大家~

2. Combi Ticket train + bus + Keukenhof entrance
Adults: 35 euros (2nd class)

The Combi Ticket train + bus + Keukenhof ticket allows you to travel by train from any station in the Netherlands to Schiphol Plaza or Leiden Centraal station where you can board the Keukenhof Express (Bus Line 858 or 854). You can also travel to Haarlem and then transfer to Bus Line 50 to Keukenhof.
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我擷取Keukenhof 的答覆,看起來是專車,不是給巴士券。如下:
Public Transport / Combi tickets 2017
During our opening season, special bus services run from Amsterdam Schiphol Airport and from Leiden Central Station, directly and nonstop to the main entrance of Keukenhof. There is no time-schedule as they run 4 – 12 times per hour. So you will never have to wait long!
E-tickets are valid for during the Keukenhof season and not refundable.


Keukenhof Combi ticket 2017
The Combi-ticket is a convenient two-in-one ticket that includes both your return bus fare and entrance to Keukenhof. This means that when you arrive at Keukenhof you don't have to queue for an entrance ticket, instead you can go straight to our the entrance wardens. You can use the ticket on any day of our opening season. The Keukenhof combi ticket is in conjunction with Arriva bus service. You can check their website for additional information: www.arriva.nl.
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舊 回覆: 請問庫肯霍夫花園Combi-tickets使用 - 2017-03-02, 14:33

根據官網 Combi Ticket ( Train + Bus + entry ) 有 32 歐和 35 歐兩種

2. Combi Ticket train + bus + Keukenhof entrance
原文載於: 背包客棧自助旅行論壇 https://www.backpackers.com.tw/forum/showthread.php?t=1901242#post9513112
Adults: 35 euros (2nd class), 40 euros (1st class)
Children aged 4 - 12: 15 euros
Children aged 0 - 3: free


The Combi Ticket train + bus + Keukenhof ticket allows you to travel by train from any station in the Netherlands to Schiphol Plaza or Leiden Centraal station where you can board the Keukenhof Express (Bus Line 858 or 854). You can also travel to Haarlem and then transfer to Bus Line 50 to Keukenhof.
You can buy the Combi Ticket train + bus + Keukenhof ticket from 1 March onwards from www.discoverholland.com or from a sales point.
The Combi Ticket is valid from 23 March - 21 May 2017 from every station in the Netherlands.

3. Combi Ticket Day Ticket transport + Keukenhof ticket
There are two types of Combi Tickets Day Ticket transport + Keukenhof ticket:



1. Keukenhof ticket + day ticket for all bus, tram and metro companies in the Province of Zuid-Holland, including Bus Line 854 (valid with Arriva, Connexxion, HTM, RET, Veolia, Waterbus and Syntus) + day ticket for the train journey between Den Haag Centraal [The Hague] station and Leiden Centraal station.

Adults: 32 euros
Children aged 4 - 11: 21.50 euros
Children aged 0 - 3: free



2. Keukenhof ticket + day ticket for all train, bus, tram and metro companies in the Province of Noord-Holland including Amsterdam (valid with NS, GVB, Connexxion, EBS and Arriva (Bus Lines 858, 854 and 50).

Adults: 32 euros
Children aged 4 - 11: 24.50 euros
Children aged 0 - 3: free

Alongside the Combi Ticket you can also travel using the OV-chipkaart travel card. Please note that it is generally cheaper to travel using the Combi Ticket.

是不是 35 歐的就沒有限出發火車站, 而 32 歐的就分開 南北兩組 ?
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作者: Arta (原文章)
我擷取Keukenhof 的答覆,看起來是專車,不是給巴士券。如下:
Public Transport / Combi tickets 2017
During our opening season, special bus services run from Amsterdam Schiphol Airport and from Leiden Central Station, directly and nonstop to the main entrance of Keukenhof. There is no time-schedule as they run 4 – 12 times per hour. So you will never have to wait long!
E-tickets are valid for during the Keukenhof season and not refundable.


Keukenhof Combi ticket 2017
The Combi-ticket is a convenient two-in-one ticket that includes both your return bus fare and entrance to Keukenhof. This means that when you arrive at Keukenhof you don't have to queue for an entrance ticket, instead you can go straight to our the entrance wardens. You can use the ticket on any day of our opening season. The Keukenhof combi ticket is in conjunction with Arriva bus service. You can check their website for additional information: www.arriva.nl.
Keukenhof Combi tickets有幾種組合,不是很清楚您的是哪一種,有可能是一般巴士加花園門票的組合,巴士應該只能搭特定號碼沒錯,謝謝您提供相關資訊喔
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作者: famara (原文章)
根據官網 Combi Ticket ( Train + Bus + entry ) 有 32 歐和 35 歐兩種

2. Combi Ticket train + bus + Keukenhof entrance
Adults: 35 euros (2nd class), 40 euros (1st class)
Children aged 4 - 12: 15 euros
Children aged 0 - 3: free


The Combi Ticket train + bus + Keukenhof ticket allows you to travel by train from any station in the Netherlands to Schiphol Plaza or Leiden Centraal station where you can board the Keukenhof Express (Bus Line 858 or 854). You can also travel to Haarlem and then transfer to Bus Line 50 to Keukenhof.
You can buy the Combi Ticket train + bus + Keukenhof ticket from 1 March onwards from www.discoverholland.com or from a sales point.
The Combi Ticket is valid from 23 March - 21 May 2017 from every station in the Netherlands.

3. Combi Ticket Day Ticket transport + Keukenhof ticket
There are two types of Combi Tickets Day Ticket transport + Keukenhof ticket:



1. Keukenhof ticket + day ticket for all bus, tram and metro companies in the Province of Zuid-Holland, including Bus Line 854 (valid with Arriva, Connexxion, HTM, RET, Veolia, Waterbus and Syntus) + day ticket for the train journey between Den Haag Centraal [The Hague] station and Leiden Centraal station.

Adults: 32 euros
Children aged 4 - 11: 21.50 euros
Children aged 0 - 3: free



2. Keukenhof ticket + day ticket for all train, bus, tram and metro companies in the Province of Noord-Holland including Amsterdam (valid with NS, GVB, Connexxion, EBS and Arriva (Bus Lines 858, 854 and 50).

Adults: 32 euros
Children aged 4 - 11: 24.50 euros
Children aged 0 - 3: free

Alongside the Combi Ticket you can also travel using the OV-chipkaart travel card. Please note that it is generally cheaper to travel using the Combi Ticket.

是不是 35 歐的就沒有限出發火車站, 而 32 歐的就分開 南北兩組 ?
照字面上的意思,32歐似乎只能用在北荷蘭或南荷蘭,35歐則無此限制,但不知是否限制目的地只能為萊登或史基浦,有無搭乘次數限制等等
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剛又看了一下頁面,套票內容為E-ticket Day "return" combo ticket for train and bus,所以應該是原站去原站回的感覺,一開始應該是我的錯誤解讀,抱歉。
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剛又看了一下頁面,套票內容為E-ticket Day "return" combo ticket for train and bus,所以應該是原站去原站回的感覺,一開始應該是我的錯誤解讀,抱歉。
確實是原站去原站回

此產品
Combi Ticket train + bus + Keukenhof entrance
原始購買網頁在Discover Holland
https://www.discoverholland.com/DayTrip/31/Keukenhof
關於產品敘述如下:
-E-ticket Keukenhof
-E-ticket Day return combo ticket for train and bus
From any train station to Leiden Central Station, Schiphol Plaza, Haarlem Station
-Keukenhof Express bus 854 from Leiden Central Station, Keukenhof Express bus 858 from Schiphol Plaza and Bus 50 from Haarlem Station
既是day return, 就是類似火車團票的概念, 是當日來回, 而不是無限次數使用的日票

詢問了DiscoverHolland客服, 結果由NS國鐵客服經理回答
(表示DiscoverHolland實際由國鐵營運, 不過回復效率很差, 等了好幾天)
回復如下

the Keukenhof Day Trip Ticket is a return ticket for the Keukenhof in Lisse. That means that it can be used to go to the Keukenhof from Schiphol as your reader wants. It can not be used as a full day travelling around the Netherlands ticket.
For the Keukenhof, your reader needs to collect the ticket at the AKO store at Schiphol Plaza, travel to Keukenhof Lisse with the bus and/or train and go back the same way.
Your reader needs to use the train option the NS gives, your reader can find those options here: http://www.ns.nl/en/journeyplanner/#/

答案應該很清楚了

由於這張卡不便宜,
所以合算的方式應該是假設從很遠的地方(如羊角村甚至更遠處, 能從馬斯垂克出發就很犀利了)
一次殺到庫肯霍夫花園
結束後則回中途的某一點, 如哈倫或萊登
如果能買到十幾歐的火車日票, 那加上花園門票費用16歐, 其實和這張卡的作用就差不多了
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感謝小王子的幫忙,提供更多相關資訊,
我也得到了官方的回覆,
對於我由史基浦到庫肯霍夫到萊登再搭火車回史基浦的安排,對方表示沒問題,
不過因為沒省太多又怕出狀況,我應該還是會買花園門票再搭配OV卡較為保險,
謝謝~

Dear Madam,

Yes you can travel that way, but you have to book via NS Spoordeelwinkel, via our website: https://keukenhof.nl/en/plan-your-visit/how-to-get-there-copy/

Wiith kind regards,

Keukenhof
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