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大马SHE
2009-05-22, 12:59
请问去合欢山和清境农场是否一定要从台中去?不能从太鲁格那儿去吗?

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Alison
2009-05-22, 13:06
你可以走回宜蘭礁溪那邊的山路上合歡山....就不用從台中上合歡山啦~~

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小鄧
2009-05-22, 14:00
请问去合欢山和清境农场是否一定要从台中去?不能从太鲁格那儿去吗?
你好
還可以從宜蘭支線過去.
也可從太魯閣--天祥這條線過去.

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wellhead2004
2009-05-22, 18:10
请问去合欢山和清境农场是否一定要从台中去?不能从太鲁格那儿去吗?
一般旅行是以輕鬆走完安排的行程.如果您要走太魯閣一些步道.依順向下坡比較輕鬆.而從合歡山下到太魯閣是下坡走起來比較不累.體力好可以從花連太魯閣口往上.或從宜蘭縣經武陵農場.梨山.大禹嶺.合歡山
清境.........風景很美

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山大王_廖司機
2009-05-23, 22:35
请问去合欢山和清境农场是否一定要从台中去?不能从太鲁格那儿去吗?

您好
這個行程由清境至合歡山–碧綠神木–天祥–岳王吊橋–九曲洞–燕子口–長春祠–花蓮民宿。


可找小黃的天地服務

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chinchin79
2009-05-24, 17:06
Hello... when you will go to 合欢山和清境农场?

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大马SHE
2009-06-03, 18:43
Oh! 好几天没有上网, 突然上网一看, Wah! 竟然吓我一跳, 原来现今社会还真的有那么多义气豪侠。 真的万分感谢你们给我的建议, 谢谢!

因为,好几天没有收到回复邮件,所以上周与一班战友讨论结果后,我们决定取消去清境农场了, 因为我们的行程真的有点赶。

不过,我还想请教各位大侠一个问题,从大溪花海/石门水库风景特定区/慈湖/复兴/六福村主题游乐园,其中一个景点附近,有没有什么客运可以直达到北竹/横山/内湾?请问从石门水库风景特定区/慈湖到横山/内湾不坐台铁,转乘客运,会比较省时吗?

我从新整了我的台湾行程,请各侠客给点意见我好吗? 谢谢!:-D

Day 1 (Fri): 桃园机场 - 桃园市/中坜市 (夜宿中坜)
Day 2 (Sat): 桃园市/中坜市 - 内湾 - 新竹市 - 台中市(夜宿台中市)
Day 3 (Sun): 台中 - 南投(夜宿日月潭)
Day 4 (Mon): 南投 - 嘉义阿里山(夜宿奋起湖民宿)
Day 5 (Tues): 嘉仪阿里山 - 高雄 (夜宿高雄)
Day 6 (Wed): 高雄 - 垦丁 (夜宿高雄)
Day 7 (Thurs): 高雄 - 台北 (夜宿台北)
Day 8 (Fri): 西门町 - 北投 - 阳明山 - 淡水老街 - 野柳风景区 - 士林夜市 - 西门町
Day 9 (Sat): 台北 - 端芳 - 十份 - 平溪 - 青桐 - 九份 - 基隆 - 西门町
Day 10 (Sun) : 台北 – 桃园机场

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小鄧
2009-06-03, 20:30
不过,我还想请教各位大侠一个问题,从大溪花海/石门水库风景特定区/慈湖/复兴/六福村主题游乐园,其中一个景点附近,有没有什么客运可以直达到北竹/横山/内湾?请问从石门水库风景特定区/慈湖到横山/内湾不坐台铁,转乘客运,会比较省时吗?
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你好
你問的上述景點是無直達客運到竹北.橫山等地喔.
建議你還是搭乘台鐵以方便你的交通.(客運直達是辦不到的.而轉乘所花費時間更久 不建議!)
另Day 4 南投 - 嘉義阿里山 這之間的交通較複雜.當天還請出發前先查詢好交通接駁時間喔.

祝~順利

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大马SHE
2009-06-04, 13:44
Oh~ 好的,谢谢你的提醒和建议。我会再从新整理一下我的行程。目前,无法在网上找到正确的班次与时间表,可能到了临出发前再上网查询一次。谢谢您!

请问有人知道台北明日饭店吗?这饭店ok吗?

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雨瞳喵
2009-06-04, 14:33
我从新整了我的台湾行程,请各侠客给点意见我好吗? 谢谢!:-D

Day 2 (Sat): 桃园市/中坜市 - 内湾 - 新竹市 - 台中市(夜宿台中市)

去内湾要從新竹火車站轉乘公車到竹東火車站,
再從竹東火車站坐小火車到內灣,火車的班次較少,所以請注意時刻表的安排
內灣老街很快就逛完一圈,
建議可以從內灣坐接駁專車到薰衣草森林(尖石店)暢遊小休
http://www.lavendercottage.com.tw/



Day 6 (Wed): 高雄 - 垦丁 (夜宿高雄)

建議夜宿墾丁,民宿都很棒



Day 8 (Fri): 西门町 - 北投 - 阳明山 - 淡水老街 - 野柳风景区 - 士林夜市 - 西门町


光去野柳的來回車程就佔了三小時,走走山頭也要一小時吧?
你這行程實在是超人才能完成!

建議這天的行程為:
早上 - 野柳风景区
下午 - 淡水老街
晚上 - 士林夜市、西門町

OR

早上 - 野柳风景区
下午 - 北投/ 阳明山洗溫泉
晚上 - 士林夜市、西門町

早上的西門町都是空蕩蕩的,商店大多要中午才開
不過老實說,要買東西、吃東西,我覺得士林就ok了


Day 9 (Sat): 台北 - 端芳 - 十份 - 平溪 - 青桐 - 九份 - 基隆 - 西门町

基本上平溪線 + 九份是OK的,晚上再到基隆廟口夜市和逛逛
但回到台北西門町時間會有點晚,可能店家都關門了

我也剛去玩了平溪線,感覺小火車的班次太少了!
而且店家都是假日才開門囧!
菁桐的日式建築物都沒開放!
十分瀑布的主權問題也還沒解決!
本來預算玩到下午才走,我卻是在中午就逛完了= =
若不是去十分行山,建議這行程可以刪掉

建議第8天可以是:
早上 - 北投/ 阳明山洗溫泉
下午 - 淡水老街
晚上 - 士林夜市、西門町

那麼第九天就可以:
早上 - 野柳风景区
下午 - 九份
晚上 - 基隆廟口夜市

這樣的交通安排也比較方便^^

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大马SHE
2009-06-04, 15:47
Oh~! 谢谢你提供的资料!(Y) 非常详细和清楚。

原来,现在,十分,平溪和青桐那里没有什么好逛的呀~!那我真的需要改改我的行程,用你所建议的行程哦!

其实,我比较想去乌来,所以也想请问一下,乌来,碧潭,那里也值得一去吗?

至于,垦丁住宿我想会不会很麻烦啊?到时,我是从台中shopping又在高雄shopping后,才到垦丁的, 我担心我们提着一大堆行李好麻烦,所以想宁可早点到垦丁晚点回到高雄应该还ok吧! 公车应该到傍晚还有吧!

最后,想解释一下,其实我知道早上西门町是没有东西的,只是我的住宿会选择在那里,所以就放那里为我的出发点,哈哈~真抱歉,让你摸不着头哦!嘿嘿~但你的建议的确很管用,thank you.:-D

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雨瞳喵
2009-06-04, 19:57
Oh~! 谢谢你提供的资料!(Y) 非常详细和清楚。

原来,现在,十分,平溪和青桐那里没有什么好逛的呀~!那我真的需要改改我的行程,用你所建议的行程哦!

其实,我比较想去乌来,所以也想请问一下,乌来,碧潭,那里也值得一去吗?

至于,垦丁住宿我想会不会很麻烦啊?到时,我是从台中shopping又在高雄shopping后,才到垦丁的, 我担心我们提着一大堆行李好麻烦,所以想宁可早点到垦丁晚点回到高雄应该还ok吧! 公车应该到傍晚还有吧!

最后,想解释一下,其实我知道早上西门町是没有东西的,只是我的住宿会选择在那里,所以就放那里为我的出发点,哈哈~真抱歉,让你摸不着头哦!嘿嘿~但你的建议的确很管用,thank you.:-D


烏來哦...
那裡有個泰雅族的博物館, 挺有趣的
至於那個烏來瀑布...我覺得會不會太小了一點= =|||
看你會不會上雲仙樂園, 不上的話, 一個早上應該可以逛完的
雖然假日人比較多, 但這些偏遠的觀光點平日實在有點荒涼

至於碧潭...其實就是一個碧綠色的潭囧
新店市我沒逛過, 都是途經而已

台中shopping哦...
要小心坐公車, 台中的交通網絡實在不太方便
商圈之間又隔得有點遠...雖然台中吃和買是全台灣最便宜的

其實住高雄是沒問題的, 但從墾丁到高雄要兩小時左右
若要逛墾丁最熱鬧的老街, 別逛得太晚喔!
(雖然老街愈夜愈熱鬧, 而且吃、玩、買可以玩上很久哈!)

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大马SHE
2009-06-05, 13:03
Oh~ 原来如此,那好我就不把乌来和碧潭放进我的行程了。我还是跟你推荐的Taipei行程,我觉得比较顺道。

那我想再请教多一些关于台中,南投,嘉仪和阿里山的行程。

Day 2 (Sat): 我会在中午以后到台中,然后夜宿台中。台中住宿选择瑞君商务旅馆,这旅馆ok 吗?出入方便吗?我大概了解一些,台中无论到什么地方,大概都是要搭车,徒步好像有点困难,(就像你所言,搭车要小心,不太容易)。所以,我就想无论我住逢甲夜市附近或是火车站附近,我还是必须乘车,对吧?那倒不如,我选个方便明日我要上南投方便的地方落脚,你们认为ok吗?

Day 3 (Sun): 然后明日上午,从台中,我选择乘火车到集集小镇/老街逛逛,然后再坐火车到车埕,从车埕再到日月潭。黄昏游日月潭和夜宿日月潭。请问这样的行程ok吗?从车埕再到日月潭的班车会多吗?容易吗?因为我看好多的建议都是从台中搭客运直接到日月潭。如果这样我就没有机会游览集集老街了,更没有机会乘集集火车了。哈哈~ 我超爱这老街。光看照片我就好想好想到此地感受一下小镇的朴素和轻松感!嘿嘿~!可是,我上不了南投客运网站查询班车的详细资料。所以,只好靠当时的幸运指数又多高咯!嘿嘿~!

Day 4 (Mon): 早上会再游日月潭。听说早上和黄昏的日月潭最美。然后,中午到埔里。Asa背包高手建议我游埔里,但不知从日月潭到埔里班车多吗?我知道的车程是大约30-40分钟。我有把埔里放进我的行程中,只是担心时间不够,可能我必须放弃早上游日月潭。早上就去埔里。你们认为呢?其实,我还想请问各大侠,不知你们知道埔里哪里有买马拉桑小米酒吗?(就是那部海七嘛~让我老远都想找到它,嘿嘿~)我之前有找到一点资料,听说是什么故事酒厂,他们出产的酒都有美丽的故事包装。地址我找到名字忘了,再次找的时候却无法再找到了。如果,有谁大概懂的话不访提供以下资料。万分感谢!!!
下午3pm前,一定会到达嘉仪,因为查询资料说明一天两班火车到阿里山,所以一定要赶上,不然就要乘客运。客运时间也是在下午3pm左右。我的资料对吗?
晚上游奋起湖老街,夜宿奋起湖。这行程ok吗?

Day 5 (Tues): 一早就去祝山看日出,然后游阿里山森林区。中午到奋起湖老街逛逛。到下午才回到嘉仪,再乘高铁到高雄。这行程ok吗?

以上的行程有问题吗?请多多给于指教与提点。谢谢各大侠朋友帮帮忙。下次,我也为你们推荐一些大马景点,哈哈!

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wellhead2004
2009-06-06, 08:01
1.可以住瑞君..另外集集.水里..請搭共乘制計程車150/人跟公車一樣
瑞君過天橋到台中火車站前方往右手邊走(雙十路方向)在博奇飯店旁就有共乘的
2.到車呈往返坐火車較方便去程集集---車呈 回程車呈---水里換公車到日月潭(不要坐回集集哦)
3.里有买马拉桑小米酒吗?集集車站旁商店街找奕青酒莊很棒的..
4.日月潭-埔里1小時1班車.
5.您看火車時客表.如您坐第一班車下奮起湖.可坐第二班下嘉義.如坐第二班車就必須等隔天
另外還有共乘九人座http://www.gogo-alishan.com.tw/alishan-taxi.htm
希望對您有幫助

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大马SHE
2009-06-26, 11:59
谢谢你提供的意见。

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chinchin79
2009-07-05, 13:16
Hello,:-)

I have read your plan, got some places I don't think so you able to visit just for 1 day.

First, you have 10 days and you need to ask what are the main places that you must go, and what are the places that are second important. You also must know, you go to Taiwan is for shopping or side seeing?:-$

Day 1 (Fri): 桃园机场 - 桃园市/中坜市 (夜宿中坜)
Day 2 (Sat): 桃园市/中坜市 - 内湾 - 新竹市 - 台中市(夜宿台中市) ---- Never visit before so maybe next time after you back from Taiwan, you can share with me whether places fun or not, but so went to Taiwan 3 times, I never visit 桃园市, dun think so 桃园市 got any interesting place to visit except old street, but forgot the name already.

FYI - you can select the main night market to visit coz in Taiwan those night market more or less is same, only few night market are worth to go.

Day 3 (Sun): 台中 - 南投(夜宿日月潭)

You can stay in this hotel
日月潭码头休闲大饭
http://www.sunmoonhotel.com.tw/resort/booking/index.php - 049-2855143, 049-2855543 (日月潭九族生情温馨2980晚宴专案)
游湖注意事项:
发船时间:AM 9:00 & 11:00,PM 2:00 & 4:00
日月潭游湖船票原价$300,住房客户优惠价$200

Or

Can recommend nice Minshu for you, worth to stay.
http://laurelvilla.nantou.com.tw/ - (049)285-5551


By the time you reach 南投 should be late afternoon or evening, you can’t even enjoy the view there. Maybe you can take ship on next morning, and then go another place? Then it will waste your time go to 南投(日月潭) coz you do not have time to enjoy the beauty of (日月潭).

In 南投, not only (日月潭) famous, you can also visit
九族文化村 which can allow you to spend one whole day in this area. You also can walk their mountain and view the Sun Moon Lake (日月潭) from the top of mountain. Coz nothing much you can do at night (most shop close at 9pm), normally will go to bed very early, then wake up early on next morning around 4am, go walk " Mao Rao San (mountain)" and reach top at 6.30 to 7 am. You will enjoy it a lot, but also will take lot time to walk up.

Day 4 (Mon): 南投 - 嘉义阿里山(夜宿奋起湖民宿)

Ok come to day 4, big issue here. In 阿里山 only 2 time slot Alishan train go up 阿里山 9am and 12pm (I think so). From nantou go to Alishan take quite a long time to reach, unless you are booking cab then will be faster.

In early morning, from nantou go to Taichung (台中) train station also need 2 hrs bus journey,

From taichung (台中) go to 嘉仪 train station need another 1 hrs plus. By the time you reach there sure after 12pm. One thing you need to remember, from 嘉仪 train station goes to 阿里山 Mountain need at least 3 hrs train or bus or van journey.

Assume when you reach Alishan already 4pm?? You can't do anything at all. You can't be going Alishan just to enjoy sun rise (ard 4 to 5am) on next day right? You should also try to walk their forest and enjoy the view.

If you walk their forest, you need at least 4 to 8 hrs to walk, no joke... is true very very big. Walk until Ur leg can break... hahaha.....

Your plan can be done, but is just only touch and go and very rush.... you can't even enjoy the natural forest. From the places that you have selected, I know your main target will be natural location right? You shd enjoy the quality of stay in Taiwan rather than quantity of how many locations you have visit in Taiwan right? :) :-$:-$


Day 5 (Tues): 嘉仪阿里山 - 高雄 (夜宿高雄)

Day 6 (Wed): 高雄 - 垦丁 (夜宿高雄)
You can stay in 垦丁 at night if you have more budgets. Then you no need to rush back. Distance between高雄 - 垦丁 also need few hours

Day 7 (Thurs): 高雄 - 台北 (夜宿台北)


Day 8 (Fri): 西门町 - 北投 - 阳明山 - 淡水老街 - 野柳风景区 - 士林夜市 - 西门町


hehehe your day 8 schedule super pack hehehe, unless all of you are super girl hehehe if not you can't even visit half of the place above.

Better plan should be:-
阳明山 (hot spring or go to Gu Gong Museum -> 北投 (only hot spring) -> 淡水老街 ( Can take boat go to Yu ren ma tou ") - Consider 1 day journey.

As for野柳风景, from Taipei go to 野柳风景 (journey ard 1hr) you need to take bus from Taipei go to 野柳风景 (if you need more information, you can ask me I can tell you where to take bus), if you not familiar, you need to find station... quite time consuming. Perhaps need at least 3 hrs to reach 野柳风景.

You can walk 野柳风景 at least 2 to 3 hrs.

Normally how ppl plan is:-

野柳风景--> 九份 --> 基隆 night market(super crowed)

But if you plan as above also very pack and rush. But since you have 4 ppls, you can book a cab to fetch you from hotel and bring you visit all the places, ard NT 3000 for more than 8 to 9 hrs.

Day 9 (Sat): 台北 - 端芳 - 十份 - 平溪 - 青桐 - 九份 - 基隆 - 西门町
Day 10 (Sun) : 台北 – 桃园机场

Honestly, your plan need to including waiting bus timing, some natural place only has limited bus timing. You really need to check carefully, okie

I am not sure what time you reach 桃园机场 on day 1. But if I were you, first day I will go to Taipei first and skip the 高雄 - 垦丁 (夜宿高雄).


10 days journey:-
Day 1 == 桃园机场 (If reach on evening time) 啠 台北 啠士林夜市 or 西门町
Day 2 == 野柳风景--> 九份 --> 基隆 (book cab?)
Day 3== 阳明山 (hot spring or go to Gu Gong Museum -> 北投 (only hot spring) -> 淡水老街 (Can take boat go to Yu ren ma tou ")
Day 4 == Take early train like 7am go to 嘉仪, reach there should 10 am. You shd have miss the chance of taking Alishan Train ( Not sure this train now still working or not, last time I heard Alishan train only stop half way and need to walk, I am also not sure you better check) Another alternative is goto take VAN go up. Take VAN will be faster a lot, price same as Alishan Train ticket. This kind of van cabby consider illegal, but still got lot ppl will go with them, got supply and demand there… haha.

When you reach Alishan Forest, should be around 12pm to 1pm. You can check in your luggage and then walk to forest till 5 or 6pm. I doubt you can walk all the area, not sure if you have Alishan forest Map? Split into 2 areas, last time when I went there, I walk 1 area first, then next day morning after see sun rise will go walk forest again for another area.
Day 5 == After see sun rise at early mrng, around 4 to 6am – depend on sunrise timing.
FYI – 2 places to see sun rise, one is within Alishan Forest to see sun rise, another location is go to YuSan to see sun rise. Normall, hotel ppl will ask you all whether want to go to “YuSan” , the taller mountain in Taiwan to enjoy sunrise or not. I can’t remember the fee, shd be ard NT 150 or 300, go there by van and most probably they will also free you breakfast.

By the time you finish see sun rise and dinner shd be ard 9am… you can walk forest as I mention on above if you dun feel tire.

Remember, if you want to take alishan train back to嘉仪 station, last train is 1pm. Or you can also go back to van cabby and ask them to fetch you down. Mostly they will wait ppl at 7-11 shop (Alishan to 7-11 shop there). If you all confirm want to take van, must book early and let them know how many ppls. They will stop at mid way to introduce 奋起湖 to you all. Most likely will rest for 30 min to let u walk a while.

Assume leave at 1pm, reach 嘉仪 train station shd be around 4pm.

Now there is problem on how to go from嘉仪 train station to南投日月潭, got few ways to go, difficult to explain to you here, but let me know if you need information, I can send the file thru MSN to you.

At night stay in (日月潭)


Day 6 – walk around(日月潭)and then you can go to Cing Jing Farm during evening time. I can recommend one cabby to you who fetch ppl from Sun Moon Lake to Cing Jing Farm. One person is NT 250, so far he is the cheapest driver that I ever found.
And stay in 清境星光流域 049-2802410 . 0933559351 – room type – very normal but service and food 5 stars.

Day 7 – Walk around Cing Jing Farm for 1 whole day, Mishu lady boss will fetch you go and back after you finish at night.

清境农场规划了六大步道,分别是『翠湖步道』-全程2300公尺,大片的茶园加上碧湖的景致,碧绿青翠就象是湖泊般,让您心旷神怡;『畜牧步道』-全程500公尺,入口处是农场畜牧中心,让您以超近的距离接触的羊群牛群;『柳杉步道』-全程750公尺,柳杉群林是寻幽静谧,享受森林浴最佳去处,享受芬多精的洗礼;『落日步道』-全程1000公尺,是观落日美景的最佳地点,不仅让您放慢节奏更让您轻松愉快;『步步高升步道』-全程1800公尺,顾名思义是拾阶而上的一条步道;『玛格丽特步道』-全程600公尺,是六条步道中人气指数最高的,遍布白色法国菊玛格丽特,十分具有欧洲风情

Day 8 – If you still want to stay another 1 night, then you can book a cabby at price NT3000 to NT 3500. They will fetch you go to 合欢山石门山登山口 very cool around 8 to 9 degree during summer time (early morning). They will also bring you go to Lou San to have hot spring. So whole day journey need around 8 to 9 hours.

Day 9 == 清境 back to Taipei on early morning at 10am.

First choice, take tour bus direct back from 清境 to Taipei (pls check timeing)

Second choice, ask same van cabby who fetch you back to Puli (35 min) and then take bus back to Tai Chung high speed station (2 hrs). From Tai Chung take high speed train back to Taipei City (1 hr). You can ask the Minshu boss to help you arrange as they have this kind of good contact information.

This is how I spend on my first trip to Taiwan 2 yrs ago but I went for 14 days, hence I can cover Hualien as well.

I have sent you personal msg, enjoy your trip :-):-)

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wellhead2004
2009-07-05, 20:20
嗨.您到底什麼時後來啊!等您來到處都有直達車在跑了

好消息暑假1/7日起南投客運每天早上有一班專車8:20從台中開經高鐵站8:40經埔裡9:30直達清境.松崗您就不用轉車了.
假日還有一班直達奧萬大的公車7:20從台中開經高鐵站7:40經埔裡8:30直達霧社.奧萬大您就不用轉車了
不好意思把台中-烏日-埔裡8:30-奧萬大時間打錯了

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wellhead2004
2009-07-05, 20:24
您應該隨時注意新的交通資訊.日月潭-阿里山近期內會有公車上路哦

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